Comments on: Why Vote Yes to Lisbon?

By: Jennifer Dalton

Jennifer Dalton — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:40:06 +0000

Didn’t we vote YES to JOBS?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/1007/1224256100724.html

675 gone in Aer Lingus.
Wonder who’s for the axe next

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:10:39 +0000

While your on the youtube site maybe check this out…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWfyZuASyuA&feature=channel
Barosso does a Bertie.

By: Paul

Paul — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:02:41 +0000

Eilish, the guarantees are like all things in all counties laws, changeable.
The increase in qualified majority voting allows matters which previously needed a unanimous vote to be passed by the (unelected) council with a majority instead. Add to this the reduced value of Ireland and other smaller populated countries and we are ready to be TOLD what is law.
Read the treaty, that’s the best advice. Look at the specific points in the guarantees and compare what the constitution of Ireland will be with the 28th amendment to what it is now.
Let the whole people of Europe decide, send it back to be ratified by the people or altered. That’s something I don’t understand, why is there no option but Lisbon? Their whole being is based on co-operation of the peoples of Europe, so why can’t their be any other way to “increase efficiency” in how the EU is run.
The yes side seem to promote an and of the world if Lisbon isn’t accepted but that’s nonsense. We already have agreements, treaties and protocols. The desire seems to be EMPIRE building. Barroso’s words not mine…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Ralocq9uE&feature=channel
This smells like a power grab, it looks like a power grab and it sounds like a power grab.
Guess which way I will be voting?

By: Leigh de Paor

Leigh de Paor — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:17:38 +0000

I just checked it over at http://www.lisbontreaty2009.ie/ and it is identical.
They have not even revised the date & time stamp on the document.
Lisbon Treaty 2008 pdf is 2,484,659 bytes so is the 2009 one (exact byte size match!)
Both have the author as C Buysse
Both have the created date & time as 18 April 2008, 10:05:47, pdf generated with OpenOffice.org 2.2.
Both have 294 pages.
A bit level comparison using the “comp” utility shows them to be exactly identical bit for bit.
Eilish, it is the same.

By: Eilish

Eilish — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:31:19 +0000

Hello
Its now2009.
Europe goverments did not like or respect Irelands decision on the Lisbon treaty, so we are to vote once more.

What Iwould like to know is weather the treaty is in realism the same as the last Treaty?

Are the guaranties just a lie so as we vote yes to the Treaty?

By: martin

martin — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 15:17:07 +0000

A fench,

merci bien pour tes mots. Moi, j’aime beacoup la France et sa culture, mais j’ai bien apercu que la qualite de vie s’est diminuee pendant les derniers 20 ans et il viens du pires si cette traite du Lisboa est accepte. Les principles du revolution sont niees, et en leur place un concours pour survivre comme chez les americains.

La vie est plus que ca, la vie doit etre belle, c’est pour ca j’exige qu’on dis ‘non’ demain.

Bon courage mon ami, bon courage a l’europe-vote No!

By: A French

A French — Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:37:57 +0000

Help you,why thefrench said NO?

The new president Sarkozy use the parlement to vote the new constitution, the text is the same.
The Yes said “remmber that the europe was good for you, you must show that you are good europe people”.
The president Chirac decide to send the paper at all the people, a big error for the yes.
Have you receive the “constitution”, because after, the french people ask was on the write, not on the speech,
on the futur with this text.
Yes at the peripherical of the text, good intention but in the center, the most is an econmical project completely close.
Cut the apple in two, do pragmatic said yes, but the cut is not right!
At 56% the french said that it is not the place in a constitution, changing the name is the solution!.
The french people was not opposite to europe, but the people europe to help and complement not the economical war
the only solution in the text.
Vote NO, only because you are alone, you cans stop and at minimum ask that all europe of people vote.
When the YES see that the NO shoud be the winnner, the yes said: “dangerous, the french will be the bad, no minister, no good think for you”.
In french “la carotte et le baton”
Thank.
A fench

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By: Markus

Markus — Mon, 26 May 2008 08:45:25 +0000

So by voting Yes, we’ll be a more prosperous, influential and powerful voice in Europe? I think not. The treaty takes away our veto in several key areas, we cede judicial sovereignty on some issues to Brussels, we lose a commissioner for large chunks of the time and when we do get one, it won’t be selected by our government. Anyone who doubts that the creation of a federal one EU state is not on the agenda is blind to the way the EU has developed over the past 15 years. We became prosperous over that time in spite of and not because of the EU. We decided our own economic policies, and we now get a chance to vote that someone else, potentially and anecdotally, will get to make those decisions in the future. If this sounds like doom mongering or whatever, fine.At least I’ve read the treaty(and yes, it is hard going) and its the areas of economic policy,judiciary and the new voting arrangements that worry me enormously.I am not comforted by this at all, I wish it was not interfering in these areas the way it proposes too. We had Nice, twice.We had the EU constitution, thrown out, and now we have it again in all but name and only one country has the right to decide its future. I hope we give it the decision it deserves. Vote No.

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